and as a result, i think what's lacking in our foreign policy and our policy in general is we have an american exceptionalism. we consider ourselves, as obama recently said again, the indispensable nation. as long as we have that attitude, we do not have the ability, the empathy or the compassion to see the world as a globe of which we are a partner. we are operating on the edge of a very dangerous precipice where we continue to contain and to find enemies and find a reason to bloeat our military budgets. >> other nations also feel that way about their country, that they're exceptional and indispensable. >> that's not true. no country i've ever been to has ever felt they were the indispensable nation to the world and could dictate to others what they could do. >> china? >> no. they have one foreign base. we have 800-plus bases. china has no history of aggression. the united states does. we deal with this in the book. >> i want to talk to you about david petraeus. yo you're a former military man. do you believe he should have resigned? i'm curious about your thoughts about him. >> he's